Evidence for the existence of God

[appolose]

Andir said:

appolose said:

Andir said:

Then why give an ultimatum?  Why would you be any different for believing or not believing?  If you give an ultimatum, you require that that person do something opposed to their natural course.  Want is need.  You need them to do something, for some reason.

It isn't an ulitmatum.  (my) Christian theology indicates that God did not want to force us to love Him, so he gave us the only other option; not Him, which is a very painful thing (according to theology again).  And want is not need.  You asked why God would need us to go and do the preaching and teaching of His word, because He is all-powerful.  I assume you were implying that that request of God meant he couldn't do it Himself.

If it isn't an ultimatum, what is it?  You either are, or you aren't.  That's pretty binary.  If you aren't, you shall be denied something.

Saying that he is all powerful isn't an answer to the question.  What does his power have to do with humans telling each other he is all powerful?  And why does he need humans to do this?  Why gloat about all this power he has?  To what end?  To give or deny you love?  How is that not an ultimatum?

It's quite literally Him saying "You can either chose to come to me, or, should you dislike me, should you not love me, I will leave you alone"  And that alone-ness (Yes, hell) is what we have asked for.  Its what we wanted.  I'm not saying that, in theology, some people like existing in torment forever, I'm saying that would rather that than God.  Bear in mind, I'm saying this is Christian theology, I'm not saying whether or not its true.  According to it, we get what we want.