This is why I don't like debating religion

[timmah]

Jay520 said:

timmah said:
With all of our ingelligence and technological advances, we cannot even create true Artificial Intelligence yet, let alone consciousness. In fact, consciousness is such a complex and incredible thing that Science has no explanation for it. All of our technology (which required a lot of intelligent design), pales in comparison to the human mind, not even taking into account the complex and interdependent systems that support its function and the unexplainable human consciousness. In spite of this, I'm supposed to believe that systems with far more complexity than what we can create with our intelligence (again, we can't even create a SINGLE LIVING CELL from non-living matter with our big brains) somehow exist without any design behind them. To me this seems like the biggest logical fallacy that could possibly exist.

As that other guy said, it took billions of years for life/consciousness to develop. Even if we have the ability to create life from nonlife, that doesn't mean we should be able to NOW. Humans may not create life from nonlife at all during our lifetime. It may be another 1000 years before we do create life. My point is: just because we haven't done so yet, doesn't mean we can't do it at all. The humans species is incredibly young; the civilised humans are even younger. We just discovered how to harness electricity not too long ago (which many people thought was impossible at the time). To expect us to create life NOW is simply unreasonable.

Our sun is believed to be about 4.6 Billion years old, and only (maybe) a couple billion years of that would be at a temperature capable of supporting life. I don't have the figures in front of me, but that is barely enough time to even get to a single cell or rudimentary multi-cellular organisms, much less to the complexity of what we see today.