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appolose said:

Andir: "So, if you don't give God your love, then you shall be forced to live an eternity of suffering? How is this any different than a "need"? If he doesn't need you to love him, why would you be threatened with eternal damnnation for not doing as your told? Why does he need to strike fear into you to get what he "wants"?" Yes, because, that is the only other option. Its either him, or not him, which is hell. Also, hurting someone for not giving you what you want doesn't constitute a need, as you seem to imply.

Then why give an ultimatum?  Why would you be any different for believing or not believing?  If you give an ultimatum, you require that that person do something opposed to their natural course.  Want is need.  You need them to do something, for some reason.



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