Evidence for the existence of God

[Andir]

senseinobaka said:

Andir said:
So, if you don't give God your love, then you shall be forced to live an eternity of suffering? How is this any different than a "need"? If he doesn't need you to love him, why would you be threatened with eternal damnnation for not doing as your told? Why does he need to strike fear into you to get what he "wants"?

 Please go back and read some of my earlier posts. The bible is very specific about sin and death and it doesnt teach that the dead will be tortured eternally in hellfire. Thats is actually a teaching that has been assimilated into mainstream christianity from anicient pagan religions.

 

Fair enough, but what is the motivation?  If God somehow orchestrated the stars and molecules to put humans on Earth, what is the purpose to make it known that he exists... as some would say the Bible was written to carry on the teachings and why does God need preachers and churches to carry that word?

The Bible sounds to me like a well written piece of marketting that does it's job well.  It sells people on the idea that there is a force in the universe that doesn't control you, doesn't make itself evident, and wants you to follow a specific set of rules out of trust that someday you will go on to live a better existance.  So, great... why not just live your life whatever way you can/will instead of preaching this to everyone else?  Why must priests and churches exist to spread the word of God if it's a non-binding contract (ie: no ill effects)? Why can't you believe that God exists without having to go to church every sunday and praise him?  Why pray?  If God is all knowing and knows what is best, why request a change in your life?  If God controls your existance and created you for a purpose, why defy that purpose by changing your life to praise him unless that's his purpose... if this is the case... why does God need praise?  Why does God need anything from us unless he himself is/was a human and has/had needs?

If your wondering where I'm going with this, I think (as I've alluded to) that God is a human creation used to control people and explain the unknown.  That's it.  Without proof to such a being, there's no point in preaching these beliefs unless you seek to change the way someone else lives and thus fight the will of any God that did create us and fight his purpose for putting us here.