Tombi, you mentioned "general", and again, that's not the same as necessary. Again, I know the benificial mutations TEND to survive, the only problem is, they happen at random, and so that would have to make the process rather random as a whole.
Andir: "So, if you don't give God your love, then you shall be forced to live an eternity of suffering? How is this any different than a "need"? If he doesn't need you to love him, why would you be threatened with eternal damnnation for not doing as your told? Why does he need to strike fear into you to get what he "wants"?" Yes, because, that is the only other option. Its either him, or not him, which is hell. Also, hurting someone for not giving you what you want doesn't constitute a need, as you seem to imply.
senseinobaka: "Both groups enjoy the ransom sacrafice and are made clean from adamic sin when they die." No, they don't. In Revelations, and many other places, it specifically says that there will be a judgement, and that some will go to heaven, and others to the lake of fire. If they were indeed cleansed of their sins, then they would not be condemned, contrary to that which does happen. And as for the context of the Corinthian verse, all throughout the chapter it refers to the body as a tent in which we live. "2)You claim that humans are some kind of soul/spirit hybrid. Genesis does not say that. They are just a soul" Again, in Genesis, it says that man was created in his image, and that man had the breath of life, distinguishing us from animal life, and forcing us to accept some other property than just the phyical, as God does not have a physical image in which we could be created.
Final fan: I would, of course, agree with you on the "forever and ever" context, but I should clarify what I mean by death in that context. I'm saying you can't destroy "death", which means here physical death, in any sense because thats non-sensical. It would be like God throwing the idea of orbiting into hell. That doesn't make any sense. Therefore, I would say that the Death refered to here is not the physical death.
Ugh, lots o' posts. Perhaps we could condense our arguments somewhere else?
Okami
To lavish praise upon this title, the assumption of a common plateau between player and game must be made. I won't open my unworthy mouth.
