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dsgrue3 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
srry, i don't look at functionality. i look at games, and if ninty can create innovative games then that's wht will drive the system. ninty still has the numbers for thier main franchises to steady wiiu sales, so i'm betting on ninty, and not this speculation.

i'll admit Wiiu will not be as strong/big as Wii was, but WiiU will not sruggle. WiiU will be the SNES to NES, but ninty won't win the 8th gen. and if they do. it won't be by the current 20m units.

Functionality is what allowed the Wii to gather so much core and casual support. The games were secondary to the innovation. This time around, Nintendo built more of a core-gamer console, which will not draw casuals. (Do casuals even know about the Wii U?)

Well, Nintendo is a very smart company. The Wii U will be profitable and thus successful, but in comparison to sales of this generation and next generation, it will fall flat. With the next release of a console, either by MS or Sony, the Wii U sales will be abysmal. Only the hardcore Nintendo fans will buy it.

I'd be interested to see how many people that did not own a Wii purchased a Wii U. 

in between every Wii casual game, there's a Nintendo original franchise.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_video_games

and while Wii sports is by far the biggest selling of the lot, i think the rest could sell the system without the casual market, although, i'm sure casuals had some part in making those games sale aswell.

i think either way the casual market in the 8th gen. is irrelevant anyway, as tthey won't feel a need to get ninty's new console or anything consisdered as such.

if ninty wants to attract the the casual market again, they can by making those same games that made Wii popular. but the thing is, ninty needs a new gemic, and motion controls won't cut it this gen.

i bet casuals don't know about WiiU and at best 70% of them, won't be interested.