kitler53 said:
HappySqurriel said:
kitler53 said:
Conegamer said:
I don't get why people refuse to think that the WiiU is not next-gen, or that the other consoles will be a marked improvement over the current ones... |
i don't get why people refuse to think the other consoles can't make a marked improvement over 7 year old (8 by the time it releases) technology. did the world suddenly stop advancing?
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Sony and Microsoft produced larger, more energy hungry consoles than had been done before, sold them at a higher price and took larger losses than (pretty much) every console manufacturer had before when releasing the PS3 and XBox 360 in order to make them as powerful as they possibly could be. It is only with the super-slim PS3 that Sony has reduced the size and energy consumption (and possibly cost) of the PS3 to a level that was typical of most consoles at launch.
Sony and Microsoft can produce more powerful systems but to get the kind of performance increase some people expect they're into the unmarketable trade-off zone. Essentially, if you consider where the PS2 was when the PS3 was released and compare that with the PS3 today (super-slim model that is bigger, uses more energy and is more expensive than the slim PS2 was at the time) it is fair to argue that the PS4 would need to be bigger, more energy hungry and more expensive than the PS3 was at launch to maintain the same increase in processing power.
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MS didn't take massive losses on their hardware, only sony did and they did so because of blu ray. or did you forget that stand alone blu ray players cost more than the ps3 at ps3's launch?
Are you expecting MS to release at a lower price than last gen, $400? if not then the launch cost of the 360 is a none factor.
it will have been 8 years. 360 had a signifant leap over xbox after only 5 so we have ~1.5 standard gens worth of advancement to look forward to.
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Really? because last time I checked they lost a fair amount of money on the 360 (Although I'm sure not nearly as devistating as the PS3 was for Sony).
http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-taking-126-hit-per-xbox-360-6140383
Also, according to wikipedia, it seems that M$ did not start making a profit from it's games division until 2008 (I seem to remember other articles as well but could not find them)
"Despite the relatively strong sales figures, Microsoft's gaming division was losing money. Through 2005, the Xbox gaming division had lost over $4 billion,[116] however, Microsoft expected the console to start making money in 2008[117] due to a loss leader market strategy of selling consoles below cost in order to obtain market saturation and gain profits on software and peripherals with a much higher profit margin.[118][119] Additionally, Microsoft took a charge of $1 billion dollars on its June 2007 income statement to account for the cost of replacing bricked Xbox 360s.[120]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360
