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tbone51 said:

JayWood2010 said:



tbone51 said:
Hell yes, in some sense. It might not look like a big deal but it is. If someone with neither systems wanted to buy a new console they have to pay an extra $50 (not sure how much gold card is $60?) with Xbox including paying annually. For those who had the Xbox for years now thats a free full price retail game lost when you compare to other systems.

Xbox is doing fine now, but if they cut that off then ps will lose a small amout (which is still so many) of a user base for its system. Xboxlive is great ( i play halo so much at friends) and more people go with that if it were to be free.
Just look at 3DS and Vita. Vita's more powerful about equal game quality with each other (nintendo has advantages though). When the 3DS was $250 (before price cut) they sold about 3.2mil units (in 5 months) while vita same price had to beat that number by this holiday, almost a year (9months WW). Difference you paid more for vita because of expensive memory. If the memory was cheap or included Vita should be at 5-6mil already. I cant tell you how many people have a psp but no vita because of this.




The memory card for the Vita is the reason I didnt buy it.  The price on those things are ridiculous.  If it wasn't for that I probably would have bought the Vita at launch.

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This is what i mean. Certain added things that should be cheap or free make the difference.
Nintendo has always been good in certain aspects of this (not talking about online). Backward Comp., Use of any memory sd card, etc.

Anyway i think IMO, if Xbox started out with no pay plan then the ratio of ps3 between the two would be 8-10mil instead of just 2mil.
Thats a big difference which could of made up that gold card with hardware.


That is true, but I don't know about that at the same time.  People pay for XBL because of the games it has on it.  And next generation if my predictions are right then XBL may be able to replace Cable boxes and if that is so then even non gamers will be signing up for XBL.  I don't think people realize what that means to have a multimedia service.  This will not just be a threat to PSN, but a threat to cable and satellite services.