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justinian on 18 December 2012
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spaceguy said:
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The difference is that the scientific method is MADE to describe the real world, while the bible is only really good for explaining what christians believe.

The bible says generally to love everyone, and to forgive everyone, are saying that the real world doesn't subscribe to this type of thinking?

Those are behavior guidelines. They don't tell me enything about the physical world except that christians believe in loving and forgiving everyone. (Which, judging from other passages and christian actions throughout history can be debated)

What? I fail to see any reason to your response. Isn't the question whether or not science and Christians belief "describe the real world" - whatever that means? The bible clearly describes the real world. What evidence do you have to the contrary since you're making this claim? Are saying because a few people misuse Christianity that means the whole of Christianity does not subcribe to the real world? That's silly. For look at that clown that shot all those children in that school in America last week. Does that mean that all American kids are gun wielding muderous baby killers? 


Christianity has a book that was written 200 years after jesus died. No one really knows when he was born. No one has ever seen god and when they do there alone and only have stories. So what do you really have accept I talk to him in my  head or you have a feeling. You know schizophrenia has the same symptoms. Most that deny it realize that is unlikely to be true, accept to people who are more insecure about their after life. Hell is scary, doesn't make it real, Heaven is great, Don't make it real. What you feel inside could just be you exciting you self and creating chemicals to give you a sense that you feel god. That simple.

So you ask what proof of science? Everything you own you should throw out, thats science that made that. So science, yea I see it all the time and helps me to learn facts, time and everything. So yea you keep kicking it up to the elusive god of the sky but I will go with what is working.

Did you know that The 25th of december is actually a pagan holiday and the bible never even mentions it to be celebrated. The 25th is actually the "birth day" of the sun- god, "Sol Invictus" or "Mithras"? Did you know December 25 was the co...
ncluding day of the pagan winter festival called the "Saturnalia"?

The christmas tree is also pagan along with celebrating birthday's, Which christians didn't celebrate christs birthday at first because it being a pagan idea. Lets also not forget that jesus birthday is really not known. So when people ask why I celebrate christmas while not be christian. I say, why do you? Your not Pagan.

The very name "Christmas," combining the name of Christ with the pagan mass.
 
 

 

 

 

Religion to me is more than God or gods. Yes to others this is important but I see it differently.

I somewhat disagree with John Burroughs. To disregard the part religion played in making the west what it is today is to do it a discredit.

First of all religion gave the west belief. In the US citizens were taught that they were "blessed by God" and America was God's land. It served a common purpose of togetherness and made them believe anything was possible with god as the leader.

From the anthem "In God is our trust" to the pledge "one nation under God" promoted this.

In Europe colonisation of the new world to "spread the gospel" - we all know it was about wealth but religion was beneath the surface - brought great prosperity.

It was the push for more..  more speed, more lands, more weapons... more wealth that drove science.

As America and the west now become less religious they are losing that bond that held them together and drove them on. They are becoming lesser on the world stage as other nations that hold on or try to recapture their faiths become more powerful.

I don't believe athiesm can provide this bond. Hitler, Stalin and the emperor Hiroshito realised this and in they own way tried to become themselves gods, making people die in their name but in the end it never worked.

Religion is the greatest divider of peoples, it can also be the greatest unifier.

Even modern China has now realised this, promoting Taosism, Buddhism etc for a more "together" society.

I am not religious in any way but believe it plays a big part in the cohesion of any major society, regardless of the religion.

I am not saying athesim could't work, but those that tried it all seem to fail.