This is why I don't like debating religion

[timmah]

dsgrue3 said:

timmah said:

Even now, we cannot directly observe or 'see' atoms or atomic particles, we can only observe the effects of those particles using electron microscopes or other means and use that to piece together our understanding.

My own faith comes, not from seeing God directly, but from seeing the effect He has had on my life and the lives of others. That's not something I can argue you into believing.

An atom is smaller than the wavelength of light, how do you suggest we see it at all? We cannot use light to view it, but we can use certain techniques.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/atom10.htm

The effect God has on your life? As in?

That's what I was referring to. We see the electrical effects of the atom and make our determinations based on that. When you go into sub-atomic particles, our hard knowledge gets even fuzzier, especially in regards to how the particles behave.

My point is that, faith is not something I can argue you into believing, or that you can argue me out of believing. In my case, I have absolutely seen lives changed, specifically and most recently a good friend of mine that turned his life over to God and was able to kick a serious drug & alcohol problem literally overnight with zero withdrawal after many thought he was a lost cause. This was something that professional help and 12 step programs had failed to control. I'm not going to tell you my life story or write a book in an effort to convince you, I'm just trying to make the point that for many, faith is not just some blind stupidity as you may see it from the outside, but something that is deeply ingrained into who we are.