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Branko2166 said:
@Majora

I get where you're coming from and I agree that up to this point of recorded human history organised religion has played the greatest role but I was pointing out that if we want to discuss the effect of religion then we should focus on the whole and not just the negative role it has played. We live in a wonderous but also highly volatile world and all we can do is to try to make the best of it.

I get the impression that you have had some bad experiences with religious people but understand that like any group there are good and bad and religion can and does get used for good or bad purposes.


I haven't personally had any bad experiences. I speak from viewing the wider world as a whole. My whole aversion to religion simply boils down to the fact that it is given so much protection and there is a sense of "oh you can't say that about God?!" (of which there is no evidence and no need). I think it is vulgar that fairytales and myths can not only be held above law but also can affect people and prevent them living the life they wish to lead (peaceful lives, I might add, not law breaking lives - hence the law).

 

I respect you and your willingness to accept both sides of the argument, but for me personally there is no argument and there is no alternative view as religion and god are not real and as such there can be no positive reasoning that can be gleaned from, well - nothing.