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ManUtdFan said:
Jay520 said:
No. Atheism/theism is completely different from being agnostic/gnostic. Atheism and theism deals with what a person believes. Agnosticism deals with what a person knows (or at least what s/he think he knows). 

If a person thinks he knows something, then he believes. Knowing something to be true doesn't necessitate it being fact - it depends on what a person's beliefs are.

Yeah, I'm just not buying these definitions. They seem lazy and poorly constructed. The problem is that if someone knows something, they have a belief, however, if they do not know something, this does not mean they don't have a belief. Someone can actually belief something without knowing it to be true...something the video actually got right.  : )

Throwing knowledge into the equation is really uneccesary when talking about belief in God. I will say that after doing some quick searches, it seems the term agnostisism is used quite differently in everyday language than it is in scholarly debates on religion. When I took some classes on it in college, agnosticism is always tied to belief, but it seems everyday usage ties it to knowledge.....just needless confusion. I just think it would be easier to use agnosticism for belief and skepticism for knowledge.

The problem with definitions is that they are always simplifications of reality. There are so many different "dimensions" to words, but you have to simplify them so you can actually communicate.....kind of the problem with creating your own definitions.....nobody knows what you're talking about.  : )