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Nem on 16 December 2012
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Immortal said:
Nem said:


I dont really care to convince those who dont want to be convinced. I know im right. That is enough for me. They can discover that the day they die.


This is the part that I find incredibly sad. Most atheists have above average intelligence, a decent enough situation in the world and at least a little aptitude in science. Why would you then take such a close-minded point of view and close off any discussion? Sure, maybe in your experience all religious people have been morons and haven't been reasonable or convincing at all. But what if there's just one guy that you haven't heard who actually makes sense? And what if you're just missing out on that because you're so incredibly convinced of your point of view?

Just take the bolded part of your statement; that's the exact thing I'd expect the most hopeless of religious zealots to say. I know, it's hard to take anyone else seriously when you have empirical evidence on your side, but how can you know for sure that you've considered every single possibility out there? Just refusing to listen to religious people, even if it saves you from a hell lot of crap, could just be the one thing that prevents you from getting to the right answer. Being so fully certain of and close-minded about something certainly isn't the way of science.

Immortal, i just dont have patience anymore. I tried debating, i tried to make them see logic but they refuse, so i stoped caring. Is that that difficult to understand?

It has nothing to do with intelligence levels. I just dont have anymore patience to engage on those fruitless debates.

You want me to? I could, but then all the religious trolls come here with ridiculous arguments like its all been predicted in their "read me as you like" book that is 100% historically correct and was most definitly not written by some human trying to take advantage of ignorance. Also, they will tell you that their new book is 100% more likely to be true than all the others written in the past and were proven false. They have no case whatsoever, yet they persist. I am not close minded, i see whats in front of me, i just got tired of wasting my time.

Present to me proof or logic in the possibility of there beeing a God. Any example from the past, any logic that just doesnt come off from thin-air or questionable source. Something i can verify and is logic from there. And please no more lies and half truths from the questionable book. The book is 100% not the word of a God. The levels of arrogance in thinking you would be God's favorite is also another reason not to believe any of it.