| Allfreedom99 said: I still go further than just to say we exist, because the conditions for life exist. The conditions for life exist because of matter, energy, laws of physics, ect. Those exist due to their establishment through intelligent means without which I do not see the possibility for any form of order to exist whatsoever. I do not see any real possibility for any order whatsoever without an intelligent intervention to set the foundation for it. To answer your question of course I cannot give you the answer of God since I do not know the mind of God. Nor does any religious text explain full detail a reason for an expanding universe, although even if it did I think you would likely question it. I see it as a vast expanding universe that is a representation of the Creator's attributes to show how unimaginable He is. As for a need for anything beyond our solar system He obviously knew that he was investing in very explorative creatures (humans). Ones that would be very intrigued by such a vast expansive space outside our solar system. He knew we would be creatures of discovery. And who is to say we are the only intelligent life that exists. Granted it takes a great deal of factors to be in place for even a small life form to exist on a planet, but there are many possibilities (planets) for all of the factors to come together in just the right way. Its possible we are alone in the universe and for whatever reason the Creator simply chose to only create us and an immense universe for his most intriguing creation (humans) to discover and explore what it entails in one of the ways that show His character to us. As for our planet's coming destruction, there are still many years to pass by for that to occur. we will likely either have the technology to make other habitable arrangements, We destroy ourselves, or what I see is that our fate simply will be determined before that. There however is one major point I disagree with in that, "nature is God itself." No, in order to be able to establish all that we observe before us, the ability we have for communication, our thought processes, our emotions...Our Creator does indeed have a character. Just by observation our Creator is not nature itself, but a real true entity with a character and of limitless knowledge. I see no other way for us to exist than for an intelligent being to have brought all of the universe, nature, and life itself into existence. The thought that we have what we have today just from a beginning set of laws and simple calculations is foolish to say that somehow those set of laws and simple calculations with the means to materialize matter have always existed without any means of intelligence to establish them. |
Matter, energy, laws of physics are conditions. You're separating identical things for some odd reason, probably to suit your own argument.
These exist because of the result of an action, not an intelligent action. The laws presented themselves after the resolution of the Big Bang, not prior. That's ludicrous.
You missed the point entirely in regard to the size of the Universe. Why wouldn't there be simply a Universe the size of the solar system? There is no need for billions of other stars and planets. It's pointless. It's wasteful.
You see intelligent design because that's what you're looking for which detracts from your ability to be objective.
It is possible that life is only present on Earth, but the odds of life existing elsewhere are VASTLY superior to this notion. See the Drake Equation for this confirmation.
I do, however, agree that by the time the Sun is large enough to destroy our planet, we'll have the means to leave, and perhaps become a nomadic space species, but this in no way ties in with biblical teachings.
