How to Destroy an Athiests in a argument! (Updated with poll)

[SlayerRondo]

dsgrue3 said:

Player1x3 said:

Hahaha, this is getting kinda funny. Keep grasping at those straws. What the fuck do suddenly the citizens of a country have to do with anything? There were religious people in communist countries, of course. But they faced daily fear of persecution and maybe even imprisonment because of their religion. Let me post that link for you again

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_anti-religious_legislation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist%E2%80%93Leninist_atheism

Religion was merely AN EXCUSE to start the crusades, power was the primary interest (just like with EVERY started war). Big difference between those 2.  You would do good to remember them

Wikipedia may be a credible source with your buddies, but not in any formal debate, scholastic paper, scientific paper, etc. I will allow other sources, not necessary scholarly articles, but wikipedia. Come on.

The mere fact that you are arguing that the Crusades weren't about Religion speaks volumes to your nescience of the topic. 

Nothing futher need be said. Feel free to argue with others.

Yes most wars in history were centered throughout history, but religion allows people to justify certain actions that a normal person would view as unjustifiable. 

Religion itself is a system created by people for the purpose of enforcing their principles and authority.