How to Destroy an Athiests in a argument! (Updated with poll)

[ninetailschris]

Mnementh said:

Kasz216 said:

Mnementh said:

Kasz216 said:

Mnementh said:

Kasz216 said:

Well unless you consider the secret German Documents about plans after the war... which were "Destroy and replace christianity and replace it for "Worship" for the german state....

So the plan was: to install a religion. But not christianity. So far I thought it was a discussion about theism and atheism. Now you put a 'germanity' against christianity. But both are completely theistic.

Not a real religion no.  As in, the plan was to turn peoples worship and devotion to the state.  Like extreme nationalism.

The most obvious example that comes to mind is the "USA!" USA!" chanting people.

Define religion. I bolded two words, that may help you achieve this.

So... then in your opinion, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are all relgions then?

This site has shown that plenty of people worship and show devotion to those companies.

I mean if so... we're just argueing about a definition, at that point making this arguement pointless.

Though i'd note then... pretty much anythign can be a religion... and the only way you'll ever get rid of it, is to kill anyone who has enough sentience to think.

Yeah, in my opinion the extreme worship to some companies has religious character. I only say church of Apple, that is even more extreme than the worship for video-game-companies.

Yes, many discussion are in the end about definitions.

And I have no interest in getting rid of religions. So I have no need to kill anyone.

All I want is to stop the exaggerated hate against atheism and to counter some strange arguments, that seem to prove religions, a creator or something while losing all logic in the process. In the end a real religion cannot be proved or disproved. It's all about believing somethng. Thats why it is also named belief or faith.

Some religions can be disproved, but usually only because they claim some stupid stuff. Like: the gods sit on this mountain - ok, we can go looking. But most religions can in their core not be proved or disproved.

I like this from other forum post but I will call someone out when there wrong and don't know what there talking about.

"Thats why it is also named belief or faith."

In the bible in reference to faith it was loyality based on the evidence.

 

When Jesus told his followers have faith he always referenced his works  in which the followers have seen. Jesus was the number one person when it came to saying have faith on me because of the evidence and not based on me just making claims.

"But most religions can in their core not be proved or disproved."

Here you give a very native response in not responding to our factors such as history or creditablity based on sources. Your respond is one of someone who clearly didn't read anything and just thinks combining random religions makes all religion false. 

""All I want is to stop the exaggerated hate against atheism and to counter some strange arguments, that seem to prove religions"

Here you sneakly try to run away from the arguments by discrediting them without addressing them in which case your point/sneak in is nothing but an avoiding the argument based on lack of ability to do so. This is called passive atheistism in which you have no ability to attack the arguments so you just makes claims like this to avoid the problem of answering them. Just saying they hold no ground doesn't mean its true its just a fallacy.