How to Destroy an Athiests in a argument! (Updated with poll)

[Fifaguy360]

Alara317 said:

HesAPooka said:

Alara317 said:

HesAPooka said:
I'm not religious, but I also don't go around bashing people who are.

There's a subtle but critical difference between criticizing something and 'bashing' it.  

Bashing religion is "All people of faith are ignorant sheep who can't think for themselves!  Religion at its core is a flawed theory and you're all dumb for believing it!" 

Criticizing religion is "There's no substantial proof in god or the spiritual.  Until you can prove it, I can't take your claims as anything more than empty claims." 

Learn the difference and you, too, can be on the path to enlightenment! 

But If i was religious my beliefs wouldn't be claims. They would be just that, beliefs. They would only be claims if i went around trying to convince others, which I wouldn't. Just like I don't try to convince religious folks that their beliefs are untrue. So who are you to "enlighten" someone who holds beliefs that differ from yours when they are minding their own business. Isn't that what atheists hate about certain religious people to begin with. Looks up the word hypocrit and then get back to me about englightenment. 
btw, this thread is basically bashing religious people. 

Also, Here's the definition of claims since you seem to be confused about that as well. 

Verb State or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof.

Noun An assertion of the truth of something, typically one that is disputed or in doubt.

Why are you wasting your time? You're like a theistic debate bull, trapped in a little cage and just waiting for someone to make a slightly less than ideal statement so you can burst out and flail about, hoping to harm the argument.  

So again I ask, why waste your time debating religion?  you can't prove god exist, and you can't prove god doesn't exist.  me?  I don't really care.  Even if there is a god there's no way to tell which religion is right, if any religions are even close to the truth.  

Elephant in the room...Ok I'll bring it out. I do believe God exists. The video is not that funny considering there are some very compelling arguments for the existence of God. The progression of logic goes like this:

- Either the universe always existed(no beginning, no end) or had a starting point (big bang).

-> You can't have a universe that always existed because you need cause and effect. And also considering we discovered the  point of origin of the universe itself. Something had to establish the concept of space and time and then put something in that space and time to start anything.

-  Then who created 'that something' or what people identify as God?

-> The something must have always existed without beginning nor end due to a simple line of reasoning which I think Socrates came up with: If God A wanted to create the Universe, but needed God B to create him first who needed God C to create him (B) who needed God D to create him (C) to infinity, then God A would never be able to create the universe, but yet the universe exists so I would conclude God A without needing God B existed.

- How do you know it is an intelligence being? The universe is so intricately woven and there are so many dependancies that it would be illogical for such dependancies to come about without intent. I ask myself: Why is my body symmetrical? Why do I conveniently have a thumb facing my fingers to grip objects? Why is my head not where my butt is and my hands in my chest and my eyes on my nipples? Everything is so conveniently placed.

A very old story and forgive me for mentioning it...but if you found a digital camera on a beach you'd never say a tornado came and blew the sand around and miraculously the granuals arranged themselves and became the camera. The camera is too complex and its features are too convenient. The way all its parts just are molded and put together are too precise and they all just fit together.

I was 14 when I conceded as a thinking young adult that God must exist and he must be intelligent to design all this.