Evidence for the existence of God

[veiam]

Grey Acumen said:

veiam said:

Status Quo - the existing state of affairs; specifically : the last actual and uncontested state of affairs that preceded a controversy and that is to be preserved by preliminary injunction In other words, the status quo was the time before religion was introduced. Number of believers doesn't mean anything. If I get everyone in the world to state that fire doesn't burn, would that make it the status quo and therefore true? Also, I was raised without the mention of anything relating to a god or religion (meaning there wa neither "god is great" nor "there is no god" in my house at all) until I was 8-ish. And then I remember my grandmother teaching me how to pray and my mom being pissy about it. I couldn't understand why my mother was so angry about it back then, but right now it makes perfect sense. In an environment where the person is not introduced to god he will simply not believe just because he has never been brainwashed into believing in something purely based on faith.

Actually, this is a self contradicting statement, as it implies that the only way you can conceive of god is if someone else gives you teh idea, so.... where did the idea come from originally? If the idea can only come from another person, then it must have been able to be conceived of without having been given teh idea by someone else, which makes there very same statement you made false, and if it didn't originally start out being conceived by a human, then it must have been taught by "something else" initially. Which lends credibility to the idea that there is some higher power that guides humanity.

Religion came about from ignorance, as a way to explain phenomena that people couldn't explain back in the day. In fact religion itself evolved over time. It just started with people talking about spirits of fire, water, lightning, etc. to try to explain natural phenomena. In the next step of the evolution of religion people started giving names, forms, ideas, and personalities to the spirits to try to explain even weirder phenomena, thus creating the first gods. The final step of evolution was when some one decided that having a god for every little thing was just stupid and that explaining everything in terms of the gods' personalities was not exactly feasible so all the gods were combined into a single being. Religion is founded upon the miracles and miracles in turn are based on human ignorance. What would easily be defined as a miracle 2000 years ago is just an everyday thing (electricity, lightning, fire, incurable diseases healing). In today's time there are other things we can't explain, so we call those miracles. The thing is that in a day to day basis, there are nowhere nearly as many unknown and unexplainable things happening to a human as there were back in the day. Therefore my statement that if everyone stopped teaching their children about any god and any religion right this moment, religion will easily be eradicated. If you study a little psychology you learn that the brain tries to find a cause and effect for everything that happens around us, that's how the learning process works. So religion is just another way to explain something to our brain that we have not yet discovered how to explain in a physical sense yet.