Kasz216 said:
ninetailschris said:
the2real4mafol said:
ninetailschris said:
the2real4mafol said:
I just don't see why ordinary people want or need guns, at least not to carry around in public anyway. Surely if they didn't have them, then we wouldn't hear constant stories of shootings, especially in America. Gun laws should at least be separate from the codified constitution anyway.
What also makes no sense to me is that people think liberal gun laws make sense, and yet prostitution and most drugs shouldn't be legal at all.
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Explain why no gun zones have the highest in murders by guns?
http://www.neontommy.com/news/2012/07/doing-math-guns
having a gun on you doesn't mean your out to kill people. I live in Florida and carry a gun on me all the time just for the protection of my family and myself.
Just because you have a gun doesn't make a person a killer. If your a killer you will kill legal or not.
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But if you carry a gun, you are more likely to use it in the given circumstance
As for no gun zones, Japan and a few other countries have low amounts of murders and No guns either. While, others like Australia and Turkey have 15 guns to a 100, but also low amount of murders. Also, only some countries have lower murder rates but i doubt thats to do with gun ownership, just look at the USA's high gun ownership and high murder rate.
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Bad use of data because you have states in USA that have gun control and some that don't.
When using data make sure all the conditions are made for the point to be valid.
There many problems with graph to add like Switzerland have a higher average than USA in which wouldn't be obvious because of population.
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Well, that and by widening the data out to countries you greatly increase counfounding factors like differences in cultures.
The local data and historical data for specific areas provide the best info...
though anti-gun advocates aren't a fan of it because it's not flattering to their viewpoint.
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For my part, i'm willing to admit that liberalizing gun laws can work in the short term, although it's not going to fix the ills at the root of it, which is what bothers me about the gun nuts. They seem more eager to be heroes than to actually solve problems.