Victory for the Constitution... in Illinois?!

[ninetailschris]

Soleron said:

Max King of the Wild said:

Soleron said:

ninetailschris said:

...

Bad use of data because you have states in USA that have gun control and some that don't.

Concealed carry or needing a permit is not  really gun control. People still, like, have guns.

It really is. Because in Illinois you had to jump through hoops which made it near impossible to get a gun for a while. Which was deemed unconstitutional also.

It was established Ilinois is the only state that did this, and not any more. So it's wrong because it's only true for 49/50 states?

Regardless, gun OWNERSHIP is the statistic it's claiming correlation with. People OWNING guns -> more murders. Please argue against that instead.

People owning legal guns are proven to be less crime which has been shown by all the data that has been shown and countries were you given a gun by the government(Switzerland.) Florida and could other states and countries with data if you want even more to show were it lowered crime.