Victory for the Constitution... in Illinois?!

[timmah]

Soleron said:

timmah said:

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I have friends in law enforcement and EMS, and I know that a lot of robberies turn into murders because many criminals are nuts. They could be high on hard drugs, or just stone cold psychopaths. There's no way for me to know if the criminal has a gun or other weapon, what his intentions are with me and my family, if he intends to kill any potential witnesses, whatever. Are you suggesting that I should wait until he kills me before I kill him? You've got to be kidding me. I have two young daughters and a wife, if somebody breaks into my house, there's a chance they could end up killing me and my family, raping my wife, or any number of terrible things. That's why they won't get past the front door. If they turn tail and run, fine, I'll just call the cops. If they make any move at all besides out the door, they're dead. Period.

Again, I don't care abut likelihoods or psychology, to me it is always wrong to shoot someone unless they are literally pointing a gun at you.

Also why do forum people always fucking resort to emotional arguments like 'suppose your female family members were being raped'. We can have a discussion without resorting to that.

Let me explain something to you that you obviously don't get. If you wait until the criminal is pointing a gun at you, you're alread dead. Good luck with that.

Also, that's not an emotional argument, it's something that unfortunately happens in the real world, and it is  a legitimate concern if somebody has forced entry into your home while you're there. You have way too much faith in criminals to be decent, well meaning people who just need some new stuff. Not sure how you're coming to that conclusion, but it's simply naive.