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Soleron said:
ninetailschris said:
Soleron said:
leatherhat said:
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Just last year thousands of British were forced to watch their homes and businesses burn to the ground because they couldn't do anything against oppurtunistic, thieving rioters. 

Um. You think. That it's OK to shoot people who are looting?


Umm yes?

if someone came in my house and started looting me do you want me to have a nice conversation in which he could kill me with anything?

Yes. Morally it's only acceptable to me to use reasonable force, i.e. equal to what they're using on you. So if they're using a gun you can use a gun, but that's the only situation. If they're just stealing stuff your job is to get away, phone the police and call your insurance about what was taken.

I'm finding it hard to believe that anyone thinks it's OK to shoot people who are just stealing things and not threatening you with a weapon. There has to be rule of law.

I have friends in law enforcement and EMS, and I know that a lot of robberies turn into murders because many criminals are nuts. They could be high on hard drugs, or just stone cold psychopaths. There's no way for me to know if the criminal has a gun or other weapon, what his intentions are with me and my family, if he intends to kill any potential witnesses, whatever. Are you suggesting that I should wait until he kills me before I kill him? You've got to be kidding me. I have two young daughters and a wife, if somebody breaks into my house, there's a chance they could end up killing me and my family, raping my wife, or any number of terrible things. That's why they won't get past the front door. If they turn tail and run, fine, I'll just call the cops. If they make any move at all besides out the door, they're dead. Period.