Victory for the Constitution... in Illinois?!

[gamelover2000]

ninetailschris said:

gamelover2000 said:

So when United States citizens get raped from privacy and economic freedom noone cares but when they're GUNS get taken away they go 'muh freedom'?

 

The constitution was made by the founding fathers who wanted a free country, but they owned slaves.

The founding fathers we're all deists/atheists or agnostic and now the United States is the most christian country on Earth with a few exceptions.

 

The constitution is not being upheld and you can not shoot someone that is stealing your property because that is a crime. I have no problem with baseball bats as they are (with exceptions) non-lethal.

 

Shooting someone for stealing your pink pelican from your front jard is fucking ridicilous.

All were deist they were in a group called masons. None where atheist please post your facts because I remember doing a project on the founders in high school where they were in fact mason which was deist a group.

"So when United States citizens get raped from privacy and economic freedom noone cares but when they're GUNS get taken away they go 'muh freedom'?"

Many complain about privacy and economic freedom stop pretending like your the only one who cares or is doing anything about to make yourself feel like special or making a point.

"The founding fathers we're all deists/atheists or agnostic and now the United States is the most christian country on Earth with a few exceptions."

your point of irony tells us nothing about what is right or wrong is shows your lack of ability to give a support point. If you were right it doesn't change the fact that because x personal beliefs mean the opposite is wrong. There is no relation of two from the data to tells anything. This is common fallacy of the hitler fallacy in which if hitler believe x than x is wrong which is for simple minded people.

"The constitution is not being upheld and you can not shoot someone that is stealing your property because that is a crime. I have no problem with baseball bats as they are (with exceptions) non-lethal."

Wait what? Are you just ignorant or lying? You do realize in Florida if someone is caught trespassing on someone property for stealing or the harm a family member your aloud to kill the person? This is only one example.

In general, one (sometimes more) of a variety of conditions must be met before a person can legally use the Castle Doctrine:

An intruder must be making (or have made) an attempt to unlawfully and/or forcibly enter an occupied home, business or car. 
The intruder must be acting illegally—e.g. the Castle Doctrine does not give the right to attack officers of the law acting in the course of their legal duties 
The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to inflict serious bodily harm or death upon an occupant of the home 
The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to commit some other felony, such as arson or burglary 
The occupant(s) of the home must not have provoked or instigated an intrusion, or provoked or instigated an intruder to threaten or use deadly force 
The occupant(s) of the home may be required to attempt to exit the house or otherwise retreat (this is called the "Duty to retreat" and most self-defense statutes referred to as examples of "Castle Doctrine" expressly state that the homeowner has no such duty) 
In all cases, the occupant(s) of the home must be there legally, must not be fugitives from the law, must not be using the Castle Doctrine to aid or abet another person in being a fugitive from the law, and must not use deadly force upon an officer of the law or an officer of the peace while they are performing or attempting to perform their legal duties.

"Shooting someone for stealing your pink pelican from your front jard is fucking ridicilous."

 Yup crazy that a guy came into someone house with a knife or weapon and kills your children.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/man-in-spider-man-mask-robs-domino-s-driver-in/article_7c4ad546-9380-52c9-aa22-87ceeab1c019.html

Man gets killed for pizza and money. He is then put in car.  All for pizza but hey no way someone would go in a house and kill someone whole family for more than that.

Because that never happens.

Stop pretending that giving everyone weapons can be justified due to violent crimes.

 

I am not from the United States and I Have never seen or heard a gun(shot) in my life. I life in a country that is pretty much better in every way possible as the United States. Stop acting like your country works differently and try our system and you will soon find improvement.

 

If you want to act like everyone having weapons is a good idea then go ahead, people will die because that is all guns do: Kill people.