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ethomaz said:

JayWood2010 said:

How do we know halo has 500k?  I'm not even sure how much was announced to be shipped for GT5.  But I do want to point out that GT5 has a lot of bundles as well as many different versions of GT5 so it may have a lot of stock laying around.  2.2 mil does sound like a lot though.  

Anyways I just wanted to clear that up because I was not completely sure on the topic.  

As far as Sales2099, what he is saying isnt wrong.  From a business's perspective Forza has been more successful this gen.  I dont like the logic he is using because it seems unfair but he isnt wrong either.  

Anyways this thread has gotten way off track now.  I think most people were just trying to point the OP into the right direction.  Nobody should mention Forza and GT next to each other because that will be a storm of arguments haha

From a business's perspective GT5 give a lot more revenue and profit for Sony than all Forza's combined this gen to Microsoft.

- GT5 (GT5:P included) have a dev cost of $60 million... sold near 15 million units.
- Forza serires have dev cost of 4 games... sold near 15 million units.

You can say the dev cost of four Forza games is below $60 million and I will call bullshit... more the most Forza sales came from Forza 3 with absolute heavly bundles... so no revenue in these cases... Sony refuses to heavy bundle GT5.

About the GT5 sales...

GT5 shipped (PD): 9,180k
GT5 sales (VGC): 7,906k

~2.2 million on shelves

About Halo I will not enter in this question because my point is about Gran Turismo but the MS said Halo reach 50 million sales in the first week of December... VGC show over 50 million sold.

So now were talking about return on investment? If you wanna talk revenue you can say Forza this entire gen has helped sell 360s during the holidays. Why not include revenue of actual 360 consoles sold with Forza 2, Forza 3, and Forza 4? Whether it had a direct impact on 360 sales is irrelevant. It was part of 360 holiday bundles so naturally we should include 360 prices as revenue. Dont take this route.

So based on the numbers there was 1.2 million GT5 copies on shelves. That sounds about right.....with maybe only 500k undertracked tops. Because its typical for a popular game to have a million on store shelves at any given time.

Another myth busted.



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