Victory for the Constitution... in Illinois?!

[Soleron]

ninetailschris said:

Soleron said:

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Max I cannot ever agree with you, and I hope your version of morality doesn't become the majority in my country.

Your morality has been proven be very nativ. You try acting like if some broke in your house with children you should not expect them to attack you or your children you should just hope they go away or try fighting but hey if lose they could always kidnapped your children or kill you every after trying to fight to make sure. I know one thing if you think criminals will not do something crazy in the moment orthat you are 100 percent sure there not going to do something that will have permanent effect on you or your family then great.

Max is right here because to assume you know this criminal minds are at the moment is a fools game. This people are in survival mode mostly likely stealing to survive and if they see a way to get there means they do anything to get it. People have been beaten to death in there own house because they were just in the way of criminal and didn't want them to tell anyone who robbed them. I know this because my grandfather was  cop told me stories of when he saw the results. Some have killed just out fear to thing anything about honorable or fair is for the native who haven't been in th worst situations.

It's not a question of whether I want to shoot them. If they were threatening my family of course I would want to. It's that I don't have the right to, much as the police don't have the right to beat people up for looking at them funny.

Leaving this thread now because as I said, it's not a question of reasoning but of principle and we cannot convince each other.