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kain_kusanagi said:
sethnintendo said:
platformmaster918 said:
sethnintendo said:

So the Microsoft chip that is having production problems might affect the chips that Sony will use to be delayed. It sounds like both lose.


but Sony will still be behind.  Look I have no idea how these things work I'm not a business expert.  It's just something I thought of as I read the article that Microsoft would do to get another jump because the fact that they're still tied even though Sony launched at %50 more, a year later, with no big exclusives, and with a bitch to program for system may worry them.

Oops my post was a little off and I will correct it now.  I meant to say that the chips Microsoft is trying to get in production will delay Sony chips (not that they are using the same chips).  Anyways, this seems to be a problem because you usually don't hear of production problems too often (ones that delay things due to reliability).  Microsoft needs to delay it till they get decent components because they can't afford another mishap in reliability issues.  It sounds to me that both are going to be pushed back a little further than originally planned.


From what I read, it didn't would like MS's chips have reliability issues. The problem is that the production yield on usable chips is low. In chip manufacturing a batch of chips comes on a waffer board. On the board are good chips and bad chips. The problem is that the process is yielding a low number of good usable chips.

While this can delay manufacturing some, it can be delt with in a number of ways. However, it has nothing to do with the reliability of the final product.

Ah I mainly have dealt with OEM manufacturing where the parts are available and then testing to make sure it works (Cisco server boards, etc).  I have been an ICT tester which I have seen a decent amount of components fail while testing.  Most boards pass but then you have boards that get a shitty component which leads to sometimes an explosion (of the bad capacitor).  Most chips passed ICT testing however sometimes the wrong chip was installed which lead to the board failing ICT.  Anyways, I have pretty limited knowledge on the entire chip manufacturing process (considering I've only held ICT, BGA, ECN operator jobs).  I have upgraded and dealt with older chips but new chips I have no clue about.