California Schools Taking out CAB loans

[Kasz216]

Mr Khan said:

Kasz216 said:

richardhutnik said:
One thing of value here might be to look into what is going on with American society to see what is impacting things. Running deficits in local school districts are a sign of SERIOUS problems. One can say "oh it is the unions fault" or say that kids need to be janitors, so you can fire all the unionized janitors. But something is wrong. Could be breakdown of families and so on also. I know from trying to substitute teach at public school in a local city to me, that there is a lot of problems. Would be useful to see where the money is going.

Well according to the American Assosiation of School Administratiors.

65% go to Instruction and Instruction related mateirals 

18% Operations

10.8% Administration

5.3% Student Support Services.

They only seem to have a breakdown of the first one.... Instruction and Instruction related matierals.

67.1% Teachers Salaries

21.8% Teacher Benefits

4.5% Purchased Services

1.3% Tution to out of state schools/private schools.

4.8% Instructional Supplies

.05% others.

 

Which, doesn't really put teachers in a flattering light since that means that essentially 57% of the total budget just goes to paying teachers.  (Not even counting administrators, principals and the like... nor "purchased services or tution to other states/private schools.)

 

Though for all I know that's a reasonable percentage to pay teachers.

How much are these teachers actually making, though?

Labor is usually the most costly thing in any institution, anyways, unless you're handling really high-cost items (like real estate or something).

Well, lets see....

 

They make less then the people with the same average amount of schooling.

They make more then people with the same average amount of schooling and results. (School teachers are overwhelmingly taken from the bottom 1/3rd of their highschool class.  Could be an issue I dunno.)

They make more per hour, possibly?  As if matters how much work you decide to do at home off the clock.  If it's little or none, a lot.  If it's a lot of at home work, you get paid less.... (Also probably an issue i would think.)

Sadly the only international figure I can find is the newest one which counts teachers pay vs college educated people in the same country.  Something that's largely worthless because it ignores the fact that the US has quite a lot of better paying college jobs then your average country.

 

The average Salary is about 56,069. 

Which Salary wise puts you in the 87% if your single,  34% if you have a stay at home spouse, and 59% in both groups.   87% seemed most important since we're talking about a solo income but it's interesting to put it all up there.  Honestly i'm shocked dual filing effects THAT much, guess that further supports the previous threads point of wealth dispairty growth being mostly systemic.

Of course that's JUST salary... not total income or benefits.

This is taking me longer then i'd like, so i'll just do some quick and dirty calculations for the rest.  Teachers salary is 67.1% vs 21.8% in benfits, so your average benefits for salary is a little more then 1/3rd your salary.

So your average teacher makes around.... ~75,000... in total compensation.

Which of course varies wildly state to state... as your average Wisconsin school teacher for example apparently makes 59K, and gets over 100K in benefits.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2011/mar/04/maciver-institute/maciver-institute-says-average-annual-salary-and-b/

 

For the record, California's Average teacher Salary is around 68,531.   It's average Superintendent pay?  (167,000).