Evidence for the existence of God

[CrashMan]

Mummelmann said:

CrashMan said:
^ That argument gets thrown around all the time. But how could god be All Good before he created anything. He alone existed and if there was no evil, how could he be good?

If I have a gun, and I give it to my friend KNOWING he is going to go kill someone, I am as morally responsible for that person's death as my friend is. How does that NOT apply to god.

The one thing god can't do is force a free willed individual to do something. It can't be done.

Also think about this. If god is all powerful, he then has the power to create another all powerful being. That being would then have the power to force god to perform an action that is evil, or imperfect, or force god not to know something, or even make god not all powerful or not exist. Regardless of whether god WOULD do that, (and how presumptuous it is of those people on here saying god COULD do things but WOULDN'T, how the hell do YOU know what god would do) it is possible and therefore proof that god can't can't be ALL Powerful, ALL Perfect, ALL Knowing, and ALL pressent (ie containing these attributes under all conditions).

Realizing that takes common sense Crash, perhaps the first thing (along with rationality) that must be foregone in order to believe such things in the first place. Its perfectly logical to me, and to you, and indeed the vast majority on earth (I'm christian by default since its my state religion, I'm not a believeing or devout one though), but a well thought of, sane, rational and completely obvious concpet or idea can be lost on a mind shrouded by the haze of religion.

Its sad, but its the way of the world.

The saddest thing is that the "morally corrupt" athiests understand that, and believe so without the fear of retribution, yet the great Moral Religeous groups seem to deny that be the case, at least when it comes to god.  However, if you DO accept that premise as true, and you believe in moral absolutes, then it is therefore moral and good and HAS to apply to god.