dsgrue3 said:
thranx said:
dsgrue3 said:
thranx said:
dsgrue3 said:
Both of you are completely incapable of realizing the situation.
You are basically being charged for subscription-based multiplayer, only that subscription should be going to the game developers as they are the ones who create the multiplayer aspect of the game and support it. Not Microsoft, yet MS is reaping the rewards. Why do you think COD attempted to institute that subscription pro nonsense?
I understand you feel as though the package is worth it, that isn't an issue. The issue is the lockout of content that has nothing to do with MS by MS. What if you had to start paying your Computer maker for online gaming? What if you had to pay your Television maker to use the internet on internet capable TVs?
How you can say this model isn't extortion is really beyond belief. Maybe I am just poorly explaining it, but you should be able to see what I am attempting to convey to you. This isn't an attack on Xbox360 owners who pay for Live, it's an attack on Microsoft for extortion. |
its not extorition becuase there is a clear choice. the facts are known before the system is bought, not after. Its really that simple.
Extortion happens when people have no choice, like in a disaster someone racking up the price of needed goods. a $15 bag of bread is only extorion when it happens after a disaster, after choices have been taken away through a natural disaster.
with xbox live they have a choice to not buy the system and instead get one that has free online. there is no way you can twist xbox live into being extortion. if it was they would be breaking the law as extrotion is illegal. so the governments of the world do not agree with you either.
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It's exceedingly tedious to have to address the definition of extortion every other post. Can you guys read the last few pages of a thread before posting something that has already been resolved? Thanks, it would really be beneficial moving forward.
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i have. i may not post but i lurk and read. you are incorrect. extortion is illegal. you can try and shoe horn it in as much as you like but its not extortion. You may not like the pricing and may disagree with it, but that does not make it extorion. again, i say if it was extorion, it would be illegal and MS would have been sued by now, or in trouble with the government. seeing as they are not, no government thinks its extortion and i would choose to side with them over your thoughts of what you think extorion is.
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Even after my suggestion that the definition was addressed previously...unreal. Well, since you're incapable of reading a few pages back, here it is:
ex·tor·tion
noun ik-ˈstȯr-shən
1
: the act or practice of extorting especially money or other property; especially : the offense committed by an official engaging in such practice
2
: something extorted; especially : a gross overcharge
— ex·tor·tion·er noun
— ex·tor·tion·ist noun
Examples of EXTORTION
- He was arrested and charged with extortion.
- extortion>
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do you read your own definitions? see how they use a crime as an example
He was arrested and charged with extortion.
from your link
: to obtain from a person by force, intimidation, or undue or illegal power : wring; also : to gain especially by ingenuity or compelling argument
Defined for kids, also from your link
ex·tor·tion 
/ɪkˈstoɚʃən/ noun
[noncount] : the crime of getting money from someone by the use of force or threats
▪ He was arrested and charged with extortion. ▪ committing/practicing extortion
Notice also listed as a crime
From your link again, this time for non english speakers learning english
One entry found for
extortion.
Main Entry:
ex·tor·tion 
Pronunciation: ik-
st
r-sh
n
Function:
noun : the practice or crime of extorting (as money)
again listed as a crime.
Here once more from a different source
What is Extortion?
The use of threats to extract money from people is a crime in the United States-- and in most other countries, as far as I know--but the terminology can be confusing. The traditional common law definition of extortion is actually rather narrow: it refers to the unlawful taking by a government official of money or property--either by threats, or simply in return for performing some official act. In 2008, for example, Milwaukee alderman Michael McGee was found guilty of extortion for taking money in return for approving liquor licenses.
For the purposes of this crime, it’s no defense for the government official to claim that he or she accepted the money merely as a tip of gratuity--as in, “Thank you, and don’t forget to tip your alderman.”
So again, although you may feel it is exotrion it is not. Extorion is against the law. Seing as ms is not being sued or purseud for extorion it must not be extorion. the very reason being there is a choice and ms is not forcing you to do anyhting as is required for it be extorion. there is just no way to twist it as extortion. you can try as hard as you like. but its all there in the link you provided
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