Evidence for the existence of God

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Grey Acumen said:

Phendrana said:

 

I never understood why a loving and infinitely forgiving God would throw you into a pit of eternal suffering for something as simple as not believing in him during such a short time as your life (when compared to all of eternity). This also brings other things into question as well. Not all religious people are morally good, and not all non-religious people are morally bad. So would the religious person be allowed into Heaven over the non-religious person just for having faith? If life were a test of the goodness of a person, why would faith in the existence of God decide if you get into Heaven? Faith has nothing to do with how moral a person is. Or perhaps life is a test of devotion. In that case, wouldn't God make his existence a little more obvious?

Look, i can forgive you for saying i don't exist, and I can invite you to my house, but if you keep insisting it doesn't exist, despite the numerous people that say "yeah, he's just head down that road, you can't miss him", how the hell are you ever going to get there?

I have studied the bible for many, many years. Please show me where the bible teaches the doctrine of hellfire. Thats something I have never seen.

And, be careful. You are insinuateing that God is actually not a loving and benvolent being. But is instead vindictive and hate filled. If you go on teaching that... it could be slander. So you will need very concrete evidence.

Here's what I know from the bible.

1)The first thing wen need to ask is "Who Sins?" Well all people make mistakes and sin. No one is perfect. So everyone is in this "sin boat"

2)So then, what is the punishment for sin? Romans 6:23 states specifically that the cost of sin is death. So if one dies...then he is absolved of his sins, he paid his debt so to say.

3)Then we ask, what does this death punishment entail? Ecclesiastes 9:5 says that those who die are conscious of nothing at all. It fails to say the dead are sent to the devil to be tortured for their sins.

4)And finally, how long does this punishment last? Due to Jesus ransom, those who die have the gift of being brought back life. This ressurection according to bible prophecy happens after Armegeddon.

So death is a temporary punihment for sins and it includes no torture... just being dead. Atleast, that is what the bible teaches.  

 

Another thing about the hellfire idea. Satan rebelled against God for his own selfish ideals. Why would he willingly take employment or an assignment from God to torture sinners? Last time I checked, rebels don't decide to do as told.