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fkusumot said:
senseinobaka said:
I'd like to comment on the topic and remain above the bitter fray between the believers and non-believers.

I feel there is plenty of evidence of God. Even the evidence that many would like to believe disproves God, I believe confirms his existence, like Science. I can never understand why scientist feel that their knowledge means god doesn't exist. It's an illogical leap. Evolution is a good example. The theory is an idea extrapolated from basically 1 fact, natural selection. The ability for organisms to adapt, change, and survive in changing circumstances doesn't mean god doesn't exist, it means he's a genius.

Well, since you're not a stupid teacher I feel compelled to ask you two questions. Would you live your life any differently if you knew for certain there was a god? And conversely, would you live your life any differently if you knew for certain there wasn't a god? There's no trap that I'm trying to imply in these questions, i.e., the epistemological considerations implied are absolute. Just wondering where you're coming from.


 It's a difficult hypothetical to answer.

I live my life with certainty that God does exist. I enjoy studying many things, including science. And, like many scientist in the world, I believe there is undeniable evidence of design in almost every naturally occuring system (biology, chemistry, astronomy, geology). I also enjoy studying the bible and the history related to it. With what I have learned I am sure of god's existence, and live my life according to to the teachings in the bible. (as a side note, following the bible stringently is vastly different than what "mainstream christianity" is now)

However, if all my research led me to the opposite assurance, I would have felt no compulsion to change my lifestyle.

It's also important to note that I do not worship God out of some morbid fear of eternal damnation that mainstream christianity preaches. I have taken the time to study the God of the bible and understand God in a matter that compels me to worship him out of love.

There are many things about mainstream christianity I take extreme offense to. I feel that they have done God a great diservice at least and more than likely blasphemed his name by painting him as a vindictive tyrant that wants you to fear him or he will throw you in hell. Or when a tragedy happens, it's always Gods fault or desire. That's not the person Jesus spent 3 years traveling all over the middle east talking about. Modern day christianity has done such a poor job about actually teaching people about god that I am willing to bet that here in this thread there are more atheist and non-belivers that have researched enough to now god's personal name than professed christians.



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