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J_Allard on 03 December 2012
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Chark said:
J_Allard said:

If you're going to cry about the arguments being had in this thread, wouldn't it make more sense to whine to the guy who doesn't use Live coming in here insulting subscribers based on his own feelings about Live? Oh wait, you're another guy who was in the thread earlier spreading BS about Live that was wrong. Things you'd have known were wrong if you actually used the service.

Like your post says, there have been points I have argued for XBL in this thread be it features, performance, crappy quality of the competition, etc etc. I have also said many times in the thread people can disagree that the service is better or worth paying for and that's fine, nothing wrong with those opinions. The only people I have said should own the 360 and use Live before they come in here posting the things they do are the guy who was in here making incorrect statements about Live in a factual manner (you) and the guy in here insulting subscribers (him). It doesn't matter what is said to a guy like that, we're just delusional idiots who don't know any better. Bickering from me isn't an issue when the bickering begins as soon as guys like you two hit submit :) Hope that helps.

You don't really quite read what I post, do you? You can't expect all information gathering to be perfect. Providing that information and disecting it is the benefit of this discussion, but calling anything I've said BS or implicating them as lies is self glorification. Several times I've placed you at the burden of proof and you've come shorthanded, opting to reduce the conversation to petty squable. You interject points to disregard character rather than to argue a case. I've attempted to have this thread really discuss the implications of PSN's rise in quality and XBL's potential reaction but instead it reverts back time and time again to "if you're not with us you're against us" attempt to stifle conversation.

Do you know how hard it is to find someone who willingly subscribes to XBL, uses it regularly, dislikes the service, and will appear in this thread to discuss it? If someone came in just like that and said the same things I am saying would they all of the sudden be right? Or would you find another reason to disregard him, perhaps through disbelief?

I've divulged my XBL usage to you. 4 years of in house access, several titles under my belt, retail and XBL arcade. After all of that exposure I chose not to go with XBL. Maybe you can't understand someone who is different than you and you'd rather believe this thread's only purpose is to have some kind of pissing match.

Really only read the first sentence. If you had any experience with the matter at hand you woudn't need any "information gathering". No point in reading or replying to the rest. Hope that helps.