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Kasz216 on 09 February 2008
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fkusumot said:
senseinobaka said:
I'd like to comment on the topic and remain above the bitter fray between the believers and non-believers.

I feel there is plenty of evidence of God. Even the evidence that many would like to believe disproves God, I believe confirms his existence, like Science. I can never understand why scientist feel that their knowledge means god doesn't exist. It's an illogical leap. Evolution is a good example. The theory is an idea extrapolated from basically 1 fact, natural selection. The ability for organisms to adapt, change, and survive in changing circumstances doesn't mean god doesn't exist, it means he's a genius.

Well, since you're not a stupid teacher I feel compelled to ask you two questions. Would you live your life any differently if you knew for certain there was a god? And conversely, would you live your life any differently if you knew for certain there wasn't a god? There's no trap that I'm trying to imply in these questions, i.e., the epistemological considerations implied are absolute. Just wondering where you're coming from.


I wouldn't. Well if got specifically came and told me exactly what to be like i'd give it a shot. Actually I probably wouldn't, cause i've read too many stories and would think it might be Satan anyway. Sicne if got wanted me to act a certain way he could always just create me that way.

Still I'd probably try whatever in good faith assuming it didn't seem like it was hurting anyone.

Even then though who knows how it could effect people. Kinda like that one story where the guy trys to sell his soul for infinite money, but instead he just tells the guy he can't change his clothes, has to wear this ugly green jacket satan gives him and he can't shave for a year. That's a good story.

Anyway, the guy agrees of course, cause he's like "Infinite money and i don't go to hell? Score!" and finds out he can pull gold out of the jacket anytime he wants.

So one day he's walking around with his fat cash but no money, and he runs into this poor farmer and his three daughters, and the guy is like, literally about to lose his house to debtors. So the bearded guy, apparently being a nice guy aside from being willing to sell his soul for money pays the guys debts. The guy is happy and says he gets to marry one of his daughters. So he picks one of the three, and she's all sad cause she's going to have to marry this grizzly adams wanna be in an ugly green jacket who smells like cheese, and the two sisters make fun of her. He says he'll come back in a year.

So he builds up his fortune with his infinity gold, gets a sweet house, the year passes, he takes off the jacket, gets a nice suit, and a haircut and he goes back, and surprises her, and shows that he was the same guy, and takes the daughter away with him much to the chagrin of the 2 jealous women.

Guy wonders to himself why satan made the deal, hears a knock at the door, and says "Why would i want 1 soul when i could have 2... and he shows off the two sisters... who apparently hanged themselves due to being jealous over their sister marrying some rich handsome guy.

The story is full of all sorts of plot holes, but I find it a pretty funny story. The least of which being... even if you wern't going to sell your soul to the devil... i'd guess doing any sort of deal with satan would be considered a no no. Then you've got the fact that the two women just killed themselves, i guess because they were wrong when they thought their sister was going to marry some weird looking creepy guy are they really that jealous?  If so, what were the chances that they wouldn't be ending up in satan's backyard anyway?

Also, why wouldn't satan of just took his soul too? Then he could of had three souls.