There's so much bullshitting on here that I consider a game a flop when PS3 fans hype the fuck out of a game, it sells like crap compared to their (ridiculous) expectations and they argue and argue continuously about it not being a flop swapping over to Sony's expectations or if the game broke even and so forth.
I have used "PS3 fan" because there aren't any other fans on this site that do this annoying hyping rubbish, apart from possibly Selnor, but I like his threads, there's a certain vulnerability, modesty and decency about him that I rarely take exception to his genuine passion.
This thread kinda highlights my pov, you have created it just to prove a point - instead of arguing if PSABR is a flop, we will now just argue what a flop is. The same PS3 fans you find in that thread will defend to the hilt the same points they made in there. They will never concede any argument and are never wrong.
Excuse my use of "PS3 fans" again, but that is what we're talking about here. I can't think of any other console that has highly hyped exclusives that sell terribly. At least the PS3 gets exclusives that are hyped.
Just don't be surprised when it blows up in your face and you all look very silly indeed.
Take it on the chin, man up and go for a walk or something. Or just drop the eliteist attitude that causes people to gloat when your precious baby flops on the floor like a limp pancake.
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