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miz1q2w3e said:
Jay520 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Jay520 said:

But a game cannot be a flop while simultaneously not being a flop. This will not due. One of the methods must supercede the other.

Of course it can't. I'm saying the condition for a flop be an OR statement.

How do we know which to apply and when?

A mathematical OR means: If either one is true, then the whole statement (and conclusion) is true. This is the only true way.

But since we can only actually measure against the expectation method. I vote that one.