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kitler53 on 29 November 2012
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Soleron said:
dahuman said:
Soleron said:

So much for "makes up with it with clock speed". Definitively slower in both clock speed and (if PPC750) instructions per clock compared to the 360.

It's now time to use the Wii U ports as a positive example: despite how slow the CPU is, they can make a game look about as good as the 360 because of the GPU. But it's also therefore time to stop saying that Wii U will eventually be far ahead of 360.


I thought we already established that in another thread by just looking at the die size though lol. I still don't think 8th gen consoles will be that far ahead TBH, most high profile games in 7th gen can't even reach 720P 60FPS(actually, prolly no high profile game does this) and we might get there finally in 8th gen and I'm hoping 1080P stable 30FPS, not sure about 60FPS in 1080P though, lets see what they'll throw into the Durango and Orbis even though I still find it unlikely for them to run something like Planetside 2 or Battlefield 3 in their full glory on rumored hardware @1080P 60FPS so far.

We did but there are some very angry people who've denied that transistor count proves anything and/or that it'd be clocked high.

I think with 2x the cost (~$150 Wii U console vs $300 others) and 2-3x the power usage, other 8th gen consoles can be much faster if they so choose. It's a tradeoff Nintendo chose to make and MS/Sony may make differently.

i am no specs expert .. in fact i'm quite a n00b.  but i do understand bugeting and you've got it right soleron.

wiiU's gamepad is a double whammy against it.

1) the gamepad is more expensive than a traditional controller.  the budgeted amount of money for things like RAM, cpu, ect will be less in the wiiU than the xbox 720 even if it launches at the same price because the gamepad ate part of that  budget. 

2) the gamepad (like kinect) takes up a portion of the hardwares power.  kinect, as i understand it, takes up about 15% of the 360 processing.  i'd wager the gamepad is in the same ball park.

 

..if a non-kinect xbox 720 game can't run circles around the wiiU.  ..well that means MS is absolutely horrible at bugeting and design, something i think not likely.