Adinnieken said:
BlueFalcon said:
Adinnieken said:
Let's start with my general PC philosophy: Buy the most powerful computer you can for your needs 5 years out. The logic behind this is simply, the more powerful the PC the longer the usable life. |
This is 100% wrong. No experienced PC gamer does this. What you describe is actually the opposite of PC enthusiast gaming philosophy -- that's what noobs or people who don't understand PC gaming do.
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Fair points.
How much have you spent out of pocket over the past 10 years for your gaming PC?
An individual may have replaced their Xbox 360 if it had the RRoD, however there was a 3 year warranty for that and Microsoft also extended the standard warranty to 1 year. So if a replaced console broke within the year, it was replaced.
There are a lot of people however that still have their original or initial replaced console.
There is a benefit to purchasing higher end equipement, and that is very much the fact that game requirements change. I don't disagree that you can have a good gaming PC at a lower cost, and I ever said you'll get better performance (resolution, FPS, or fidelity) from a console. I said the games you buy on day one, as well as those you buy 10 years later will work just the same.
The specs I offered weren't as far over the top as you would like to assume. Only the latter configuration was significantly over the top in terms of gaming needs and simply because I wanted to get my post done. However, the two other configurations were reasonable gaming PCs and the prices were fair. Even if we dropped the prices by $1000 each, the prices would still be significantly more than the cost of a PS2 & PS3 (Gen 7 & Gen8) or an Xbox & Xbox 360. There is no way the P4 as configured could have met the recommended specs for Crysis. It would have been short memory, and you ran the possibility that the in 2007 you might not have been able to find a compatible video card depending on if it was PCI, or AGP. Not to mention, unless it was actually a workstation motherboard, you wouldn't have any hint of dual cores. So you're pretty muched forced to upgrade the system. Could the price have been reduced by purchasing upgrade components, such as the motherboard, memory, HDD controller, video card, etc? Yes. It doesn't change the fact that a Core Duo processor would have been expensive, as well as the memory, and as well as the GPU. Worse, that time frame out, you wouldn't have gotten much at all for your P4 and or memory.
Could you do a i5 for $500. Sure, but you're still three PCs out. Even if you upgrade, the amount of money you would have gotten for the previous systems memory, CPU, GPU, etc would have been a pittance.
Please, show me the numbers that prove that PC gaming is less expensive and a better value over a 10 year period. I beg you! Prove me wrong, since you obviously know more than I do. I will GLADLY capitulate to anyone who can prove to me that PC gaming is less expensive and a better value over a 10 year period. Just do the math and show me the numbers.
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TBH, 10 years is a bad comparison since the graphics department was rather lacking on consoles before the 7th gen so they were very different eco systems, I'd prolly say that it shouldn't really count until 2006 when the PS3 came out. The graphics fidelity differences were way too high before the 7th gen that they mostly didn't even have the same games, only really shitty looking ports on consoles.
My good ol' Athlon 64 x2 4400 did last me like 5 years as a gaming rig before I sent it to the shitter though, rest are all my play machines because I have money to burn, I've built like 3 different Core i5s with a lot of different parts and memory ETC then is using one as a file server, 1 as my live stream machine, and handed one to family for shits and giggles(I'm basically sponsoring my bro's gaming rig). I totally destroyed an i7-860 cause I OCed it too high, then my MSI Mobo burnt out because of it and other motherboard can't even read the CPUID on that CPU anymore LOL, that lasted about a year, was a fun toy.
My current machine is the actual one that'd last me another 5 years, I'd say the total cost is like, 2500 USD or so, but the 2 SSDs I got for 500 each at the time, which is like, 380 now I think. I don't just do gaming though, I do a lot of video and audio and 3D modeling shit on it. I'm actually in the IT field so I go above spec for a gaming machine ATM, most people don't need to spend 2500 to make a gaming machine last 5 years, this is purely for a lot of VMs really.
