| Slimebeast said: It's sad how atheists try to rationalize the concept that something came out of nothing. |
I like you.
But.
"a sea of random spontaneous energy"
There is good evidence that this is how the universe is right now. I'm only speculating that that caused the universe, we don't know that, but the premise is good science.
"the laws didn't exist before matter so we can ignore these laws"
"There are infinite possibilites that could have created these laws"
That's exactly the point. We don't know. We can't know yet, without better methods. So it makes no sense to say you KNOW God did it either. There's no way we can tell but we can put in some reasonable guesses. And, sure, a creator is one of those guesses. Saying that creator was an omniscient, benevolent God is a big stretch though. What if some random aliens were the creator? Would they be worthy of worship?
"There's a balance between matter and anti-matter so a universe could pop up anywhere anytime"
Well, it can. We have good evidence that anything can happen at any time. That isn't just speculation.
"there could be an infinite amount of universes which makes it plausible for our particular universe to come into being"
There could be. I mean, religion in the 16th century was all like, "Earth is the centre of the universe and we will execute anyone who says otherwise". Turned out it wasn't. What if our universe isn't special either? The Bible is so anthropocentric it's insane.
