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JEMC said:
Kynes said:
JEMC said:

Oh, I know that nobody tells the whole story, and that goes for both sides, and that some of the things that have been said are just simply stupid, but people is not as stupid as many believe (as the results of the elections have proved to Mas), and many already know that.

It's just that the relation between Spain and Catalonia has never been good, and lately (5-10 years) it's getting worse. And the polititians instead of trying to make peace are making things worse.

The cold true is that if Catalonia ever becomes independent, both Catalonia and Spain will have lots of troubles.

About the last phrase, this is something we can agree on.

On the rest, it seems that the most self government Catalonia has, the bigger the problems are. Ask Scotland, Corsica, Quebec, both parts of Belgium... if they would like to have the self government Catalonia or the Basques have. You have much more self government than any federal country, but there is something left, the judicial power. That's what your politicians want, to control it, and to keep the 4% rule that abides to any company that wants to work with the public sector there. I remember Maragall when he said to Mas "Your problem is called 3%", it seems that he was short by one point.

I know that many regions would like to have our political self government situation, but what about the financial one?

As I said, many people have voted with their wallets in mind, not the flags, and when the Spanish government doesn't give the money they have agreed to, then they are only making the problem worse.

I can remember you something. The last financial pact was proposed by the Catalan government, so I don't think that your regional government has the moral power to ask for a change of the rules whenever they want. I would love a real federal system, where the regions tax their citizens and have to explain why they spend their money in stupidities instead of important things. The financial system we have in Spain is horrible, where the central government has to tax all the citizens, the regions are black holes, and they only ask for more money. All the problems are because Madrid hates us!