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Mr Puggsly said:
riderz13371 said:

Seriously, the average 360 fan is not talking about party chat. Give it a rest. Its just something Sony fans focus on because they can't have it.

You are allowed to play the multiplayer side of the game, just not for free on the 360. Sony decided they and 3rd parties will eat those costs and good for them! When online services are available for free, that's great! But being entitled to free online services implies MS shouldn't be allowed to charge for online services. And since I'm not a communist I disagree.

Why do you think developers are okay with MS charging for online services? Because MS takes away their financial burdens of offering online services!

Well your example was bad. MS charged for Live and created a very robust online service never seen on a console before. That forced Sony to compete and create a better online service as well. I'm not sure how that's the same as publishers abusing DLC to make more money. I'll repeat, your example was bad.

The Xbox has a lot of streaming apps not found on PS3 or Wii. I also consider exclusive games as exclusive features. For example, where else am I gonna play Halo 4 or Gears 3 online? I enjoy playing those games online more than any other titles, so that a lone is a good enough reason to pay for Live.

I already have party chat on my vita =). Also the exclusives don't appeal to me. Microsoft is going towards the North American audience and it is obvious by the abundance of mindless first person shooters. I enjoy the diversity and creativity that the PS3 and Wii exclusives have. 

Good for you buddy. Sony finally addressed the party chat problem, new hardware.

Hahahah! Oh boy! Not only do you sound like an elitist jerk for calling shooting fans "mindless", but you're clearly ignoring Sony pretty much just makes games for western audiences. The Vita is doomed in Japan due to 3DS getting most of the major Japanese support. So how is Sony going to make Vita appeal Japanese audiences? More Uncharted, maybe God of War, or perhaps Killzone?

Clearly I just whipped your butt in this discussion because now you're showing your true colors. You don't understand why people pay for Live simply because you don't enjoy 360 library. But you're ignoring millions and millions of people do. Live isn't for you and that's fine, but you don't have to piss and moan about it to people that enjoy what it does offer. Try growing up a little and stop getting upset not everyone enjoys the same things as you.

I'm not pissing and moaning. You don't see me preaching to people to stop paying for live. I already said that if you want to pay for live then more power to you. Support the company that you prefer and move on with your life. Also when was the last time a great multi plat (i know you would say halo) shooter came out? This isn't including Far Cry 3 cause it's clearly, according to reviews, the best fps this year. Doesn't count cause it's not even out though. Most shooting games are mindless. Shoot here...move to objective...shoot some more bad guys to get to other objective yeah yeah yeah I get it. I'm a North American so I'm basically making fun of my own kind. Shooting games are mindless and easy because anyone and everyone can pick them up and be good at them. This is what makes them so appealing. Theres a reason CoD has been so successful. MW2 was my first first person shooter EVER and I managed to maintain a 1.5 kd. Shooting games are simply just not hard and that makes them appeal to people who just want to pick up a controller and play without actually thinking about the story.