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riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
riderz13371 said:
ironmanDX said:
 

 How a company makes you pay so that you can communicate with your friends just seems down right disgusting to me.


I stopped reading here.

If everyone thought like you then I wouldn't be surprised if companies somehow started charging us for talking to our friends face to face. How you find paying to talk to your friends normal is odd to me. You pay for the xbox, then you pay for a headset thinking that you can use party chat. But then you have to pay every month for it.


Eveyone does think like me!!! You pay for goods and services!!! Hell, I don't even kow you and you pay to use your internet to communicate wit me right now!! Do you pay for a phone? Mobile and landline? Foolish statement.

phones are mobile and can be carried anywhere. I don't know about you, but I haven't seen people carrying their Xbox and headset on outside talking to people. And as for your paying for internet comment, this just goes back to the way Microsoft is being greedy. So I pay for internet and then I buy a console and finaly I have to pay to use my internet connection AGAIN? No my friend, you don't think like me.

I said mobile AND LANDLINE! Do you take your, now read carefully, HOME PHONE with you everywhere? Oh, you pay for a house on a mortgage? Must take that everywhere with you too? You pay for it so you must be able to use it all the time no matter where you are? I'm glad I don't think like you.

 

People pay for netflix and other internet based subscriptions? Why rip on xbl??

Because XBL forces you to pay for Gold even if all you want to do is pay for netflix. How do you find that normal?! No sane person can justify the way Microsoft does this.

You didn't reply to the first bit. 10 million or whatever people on WoW say hi. It's common now. Get with the times.

if "the times" are having to pay monthly subscriptions to access content which is free on a different product/service then I don't want to get with it.


Soon you might not have a choice. PSN+ was made probably because they realized too late that online subscription is the way to go. They're in a business are they not? To make money? If they forced pay to play on people now you'd be alienated and possibly switch console or stop all together online.

 

You still didn't reply to the first bit.

I already did. You can justify paying for something that has NO alternatives. Xbox Live has alternatives. Paying to use a phone/landine does not. You either pay to use them or you just simply can't use them because you aren't paying. Same goes for a mortgage/renting a home. You either pay for those things, or you are homeless.

Mobile and landline phones have alternatives. You can live without them. People back then would have been in uproar that you have to pay for the phone and line rental/credit too but now you consider them a thing you cannot live without. It is the same basic principal. Just because you pay for the hardware doen't mean it will stop costing you!!