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Jay520 on 25 November 2012
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Roma said:

1: the point of the matter is even if there is material out there it can't become something on its own without someone putting it together! People can't create planets? you don't say :O. very simple concept that is applied to everything. even if you have materiel out there its just materiel until someone puts it together and forms something out of it!

2: some examples in no particular order.
1: "when the slave gives birth to the master" that means o mother gives birth to her child and that child later becomes like her master ordering her to bring him food, buy him toys e.t.c and you see that happening allot.
2: when homosexuality becomes normal and it is acceptable to marry same sex partners.
3: when the worlds catastrophes increase, like earthquakes, hurricanes, huge forest fires as well as climate change.

3: ok sure but how does that disprove Gods existence?

4: how can you be so sure that God did not make it?

let's just agree to disagree because whatever you through at me will not make any sense since nothing by it's own can decide to become something no matter how many billion years you give it, it will still just be broken glass!


1. I just gave you examples of materials that people don't put together. That concept is not applied to everything because humans aren't the creators of every formation.

And I gave you an example of material becoming something else without help from anyone else. Material such as dust and elements start off individually in the universe and eventually come together to form planets, stars, solar systems, etc. This is explained WITHOUT any human or God creator. 

2. Any moron could have predicted those things. There will be earthquakes? Seriously? I can tell you right now, "there will be earhtquakes in the future." And I would be right, but that doesn't make me a prophet. Also, a mother buying her child a toy means that she's a slave? Really?

3. The point didn't have anything to do with disproving God's existence. It was disproving your claim that the universe was perfect.

4. I'm not. But then again, I'm not sure Zeus didn't do it. That's why I don't make any claims about it. You are the one that says God did it. You are the one with the beliefs, not me.

There could have been a creator. But why do you believe he was an omnibeloved, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, creator and and why do you believe in one god rather than multiple?