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Jazz2K said:
SvennoJ said:
Jazz2K said:
ninetailschris said:
Money
Drops mic and leaves/


Lol you think they make a lot of money through hardware? Ask MS if they prefer 70million Live subscribers of 70 millions 360s sold? One cost them an arm and leg while the other gets them almost a bilion a year... money would be a good reason to drop hardware imo.

Without the initially loss leading xbox360 which gave MS their closed eco system they wouldn't have all those live subscribers.
The paid live for windows service got cancelled as no pc gamer wanted to pay for it.


Yes that is true... but it doesn't mean it has to go on like this. I think I read somewhere that MS was going to rename XBL to just Xbox and have it available on all MS devices, Android and iOS. This already is a sign. No need to buy a specific hardware to play Xbox, this is brilliant imo and both Ninty and Sony should listen.

Same thing, new name. It's great for xbox 360 owners that have gold anyway, but I don't think it will wow many others into buying a subscription. Unless you mean gaika / on-live type system which has it's own set of problems.

Nintendo, Sony, Apple, Microsoft and all the big software companies deciding on 1 console standard is not going to happen. Look how long it took the dvd consortium hell bend on not repeating the Betamax, VHS, Video 2000 war. And they still couldn't get to 1 standard. We had the hd-dvd, blu-ray format war forcing both to be rushed out of the gate. Players that couldn't be updated became obsolete, pissing off consumers, and many losses were made trying to wow people into their camp with 7+ free movie deals and selling exclusive movies at a loss. Thanks to a dedicated gaming console taking a huge loss, this war luckily didn't last too long.

A gaika / on-live type service might work in the future and there is no reason it can't run on all consoles just like Netflix. Although if Sony goes on with Gaika, why would MS let it on their system instead of offering their own alternative. There is more money to be made from a walled garden and MS is more actively working towards that goal then an open standard.

Yes services are the future, but your own services. Get the subsidized hardware into peoples hand and make money by selling them your services.