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Player1x3 said:


You know to whom logic and laws of our universe dont apply to? God. It is really the most logical explanation.

''But before the universe, who is to say that those laws and that logic applied?''

Nothing, but to create OUR UNIVERSE as it is now, you would need to use (or create) the laws that apply to OUR UNIVERSE. We can thus assume, that universe was created using the laws which it contains today. You cant use any laws to create something which later creates its own different laws and rules


True. but why must that God be conscious, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, omnibeloved, and how do you know there aren't more Gods. I can understand a belief in a creator, but where do these other  traits come from?

As for the second part: Who's to say? It seems like you're just making assumptions here. Just because laws have been constant for your life doesn't mean they weren't at some other time.