How something can come from nothing

[Roma]

Jay520 said:

Roma said:

1.) I gave an example before about dropping a glass for billions of years. will it one day form two perfect smaller glasses? lets add fire to melt it and water to cool it down will it ever take the form of two glasses filled with water?

2.) who decides what is perfect and what is not? if everything is meant to be the way it is then it is perfect. just because you don't think something is perfect it doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be that way for a specific reason. as I said everything has a reason weather you know that reason or not.

3.) so you are saying that if a plant can adapt to its environment that means there was no one that programed it to be the way it is today? don't confuse me with people who do not believe in evolution and mutation as that is part of the program in everything that exits. it changes to adapt and if it doesn't then its time is up and it has served its purpose.

4.) the very fact that a human has a soul is enough to prov Gods existence.

1.) I wouldn't know. What point are you making?

2.) How do you know things are meant to be a certain way? And how do you know everything is currently the way it was meant to be? How would you know if something wasn't what it was meant to be? How could you possibly know that? One could say humans weren't meant to fight each other, yet you see that happening today. Would that disprove your definition of perfect? And how do you know everythnig has a reason? Where are you getting this information?

3.) No, I was comparing a plant in a sidewalk to life in the universe. The plant exists in a very tiny crack of the sidewalk and only survives for a short amount of time. Just because the plant lived on the sidewalk doesn't mean the sidewalk was designed for the plant. The same goes for humans in the universe. Humans exists in a very tiny 'crack' of the universe and will only survive for a short amount of time. Like the sidewalk, the universe was not designed for life. Of course, this is assuming you belief the universe is perfect because of life.

4.) Define soul.

the point I'm making is that someone needs to form them in a form of two glasses. this goes to every thing in the universe! nothing can become something without guidance I mean I cant just through a bunch of wood and hope a bookshelf will build its self right?

how I know? well there are prophesies that are coming true yet have been written 1400 years ago. how can I not believe in things predicted to happen in that time frame and in to the future when they are happening everyday?

but this will take a lot of time to explain. I might do that tomorrow if your interested.

well it was not designed to live in that crack but it was designed to grow in dirt so wherever the seed falls and if the circumstances are right then it will grow. so that aria was not for it but because of the dirt it was designed to grow in it managed to do so for a short period. I'm not designed to have parasites on my body but the parasites are designed to jump on any body that they can suck on

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