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kain_kusanagi said:
BluGamer23 said:

since you seem to call majority of wii owners 'none gamers' ..what is your definition of gamers? think before you answer

I'm not talking about the mom's who bought their kids a Wii. I'm talking about the soccer mom's who bought themselves Wii Fit. If they are still using Wii Fit they won't buy another console. If they stoped using Wii Fit just like they stopped using their exercise bike then they won't be buying another console either.

The Wii caught lightning in a bottle by appealing to people who thought swinging a controler like a tennis racket looked like fun. To them it's not a lifestyle. They aren't gamers. They had fun with their new toy and they are done with it. That's why they didn't continue buying more and more games for their Wii's and why they aren't knocking eachother over for a Wii U this holiday season.

I expect the Wii U to be successfull, but not Wii successfull. I'm think more like the N64 or Gamecube in lifetime sales.

As for my deffinition of a gamer. I consider anyone who calls themself a gamer to be a gamer. Soccer Moms and grandparents may balance on a board or roll a virtual bowling ball, but to them it's an activity. To gamers a video game is more than entertainment.

Why are you taking this so personal? If you think I'm bashing Nintendo fans I assure you I am not. I am a long time Nintendo fan. I was there when Nintendo was "That Donkey Kong Company" and I've been a fan ever since. Despite my love of all things Mario, Zelda,. Metroid, etc. I just don't find it remotely possible for the Wii U to be as successfull as the Wii. The Wii was a fluke. A fun fluke, but a fluke none the less.

"To gamers a video game is more than entertainment."  <- lol come on man.. games are just for fun nothing more.. anyone who lives just to play games need to get a life.. its these same people who becomes elitist and thinks they are better than others just because they dont play as much games as they do. 

Im taking this personal now?.. no.. Im challenging people who calls themselves real gamers and their assumptions on how they see things refer to the above.

No need to continue to tell me you love Nintendo and been a long time nintendo fan.. that doesnt matter..  

"I consider anyone who calls themself a gamer to be a gamer." <- eh?... why just about anyone can call themselves a gamer.. regardless if they played videogames or boardgames.

You really cannot say they will not buy another console..  if a new console is fun people will buy it regardless if they had the wii before.. in terms of wii-level success who really expect it to?.. but logically its way to early to say otherwise.. I mean did you ever think the wii would do as well as it did? I bet you didnt.

The wiiU will be a more logically better compared to the PS4 and x720 in terms of sales.. so dont waste anymore time talking about wii-level success thats done and dusted.