How something can come from nothing

[Roma]

Jay520 said:

Roma said:

Soleron said:

Roma said:

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I have already explained my view on that matter and why it is more logical that there is a creator rather than the universe deciding to create itself from nothing as in no dust no nothing at all.

What created the creator?

I'll answer both in this post +Ja

if every creation has a creator then it would go on for ever and we would not exist therefore God is no creation to begin with.

anything that is finite has a creation. God is infinite that means he has no creator. and by looking at how things are designed they fallow pattern and a pattern indicates intelligence. its like a human would create but way more advanced anything a human would ever be able to understand no matter how far science goes.  

where does the soul/consciousness come from? is it particles?

How is this universe perfect exactly? Because there is life? From what we know, the universe can only support life in an extremely minuscule segment. Also, from what we know, life has only existed for an extremely short amount of time. Imagine a plant that managed to grow out of a crack in the sidewalk and managed to live for only a few days. The sidewalk is not perfect for life; it was not designed for the plant. Rather, the plant adapted to the sidewalk. The same applies to life and the universe. Life sprouted in the tiny segment where it was possible. And from what we know, its only going to surivive for an extremely short amount of time.

I don't know where consciousness came from. I don't claim to, either. That doesn't support that God caused it.

I gave an example before about dropping a glass for billions of years. will it one day form two perfect smaller glasses? lets add fire to melt it and water to cool it down will it ever take the form of two glasses filled with water?

who decides what is perfect and what is not? if everything is meant to be the way it is then it is perfect. just because you don't think something is perfect it doesn't mean it wasn't meant to be that way for a specific reason. as I said everything has a reason weather you know that reason or not.

so you are saying that if a plant can adapt to its environment that means there was no one that programed it to be the way it is today? don't confuse me with people who do not believe in evolution and mutation as that is part of the program in everything that exits. it changes to adapt and if it doesn't then its time is up and it has served its purpose.

the very fact that a human has a soul is enough to prov Gods existence.