IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
ninetailschris said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
"Murdering someone, then afterwards being sincerely sorry doesn't change the pain and anguish the victims family feels."
Neither does the fact that the criminal has been punished. Even then, all friends and relatives will obviously miss the deceased person. Not even the most severe punishment can change that. People call it justice when someone has been punished just because they have been taught that that's the case. But the truth is that we all have different definitions of justice, and all I'm doing is presenting mine in the OP.
I mean, let's say that a guy accidentally kills a random citizen for money. He then serves his time in jail and proceeds to spit on the victims grave and giggles each time he passes by any of the deceased person's relatives. Is that justice? I don't think so. I think the perfect justice would be served by the time we make him realize the consequences of what he has done, in which case he would be deeply (if not painfully) sorry and sincerely apologize to all relatives. If the relatives knew for sure that he was sorry, I believe that would make them a lot happier than seeing him going through further pain...unless they are of great sadistic nature, as mentioned in the OP.
Of course, with current technology this is not possible, and it probably never will be. But this thread is not about that. This thread is about what we think is ideal in an ideal world. I say it is unnecessary to punish a person who is sincerely sorry about its crimes, and that further punishing them (beyond their already great guilt) is inhumane and unjustified.
(Awesome name, BTW :)
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That third paragraph is the defintion of naive.
your last sentence is not based on reality but someone is who thinks hugging each other solves everything.
I can't tell if you really believe this or your saying because it sounds good on paper.
i mean could give thousands of situations showing what your saying isn't going to work. This literally made me believe your just naive to the world.
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Of course the last sentence is not based on reality. I've mentioned several times that I'm talking about an ideal world where what currently is impossible (such as being 100% sure that the criminal is sincerely sorry for its criminal acts) would be possible. Views based on an ideal world can only sound good on a paper, given how the real world obviously isn't ideal at the moment. You believe that I am naive to the world; I know that you currently are naive to the topic.
I'm spreading my views in the OP, and the purpose of this thread is for others to do the same and discuss them. Feel free to do so.
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No, it will always be impossible as long as people are dishonest ans selfish what you say could never come to actually being a reality.
So do you believe that John Wayne Gacy (and others like him) should say "I'm sorry" and be allowed to walk the streets again?
Do you think people like that even care?
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