Are Punishments Really Idealistic?

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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

If they were to apologize to the victim or his/her relatives following this treatment, would a punishment really be a necessary act? Would they really deserve to suffer even further beyond their already severe regrets?em in an ideal world where the perfect- or highly effective treatment such as the example named above is possible

Murdering someone, then afterwards being sincerely sorry doesn't change the pain and anguish the victims family feels. You must be able to answer for your actions, sorry or not. Its fair and just.

Purpose of punishment is to prevent crime with fear, but ALSO to be enforced when said crimes are committed anyway. There should be no pleasure in watching criminals suffer as much as  the victim.....its the knowledge that they will do the time and justice will therefore be served.

Saying sorry doesnt change the dead bodies burried in the backyard. There is also no 100% way to prove that they are sincere. Either way, you do the crime, you pay the consequences, epiphany or not.

Sorry for the late response. The thread was 'outbumped' from my VGChartz Buddy.

 

"Murdering someone, then afterwards being sincerely sorry doesn't change the pain and anguish the victims family feels."

Neither does the fact that the criminal has been punished. Even then, all friends and relatives will obviously miss the deceased person. Not even the most severe punishment can change that. People call it justice when someone has been punished just because they have been taught that that's the case. But the truth is that we all have different definitions of justice, and all I'm doing is presenting mine in the OP.

I mean, let's say that a guy accidentally kills a random citizen for money. He then serves his time in jail and proceeds to spit on the victims grave and giggles each time he passes by any of the deceased person's relatives. Is that justice? I don't think so. I think the perfect justice would be served by the time we make him realize the consequences of what he has done, in which case he would be deeply (if not painfully) sorry and sincerely apologize to all relatives. If the relatives knew for sure that he was sorry, I believe that would make them a lot happier than seeing him going through further pain...unless they are of great sadistic nature, as mentioned in the OP.

Of course, with current technology this is not possible, and it probably never will be. But this thread is not about that. This thread is about what we think is ideal in an ideal world. I say it is unnecessary to punish a person who is sincerely sorry about its crimes, and that further punishing them (beyond their already great guilt) is inhumane and unjustified.

 

(Awesome name, BTW :)

1st: Seems wrong to have the criminal go unpunished. It will never bring back the loved one, but to know that they are going off scot free because they are tuly sorry....just seems wrong. Its the human condition, we need closure, despite the loss being felt.

2nd: If the guy does his time, then thats justice. Feeling no remorse just means hes an asshole. But he paid his dues against his will, but paid them nonetheless.

3rd: Idealy, death punishment should be abolished. Criminals should be punished with mandatory working towards city projects for the betterment of the community. Rotting in a cell doesnt help anybody.

(thank you, and I rather enjoy these thought provoking threads by you)