kaneada said:
richardhutnik said:
kaneada said:
TheEvilBanana said:
Warning: This is the truth and as I believe it, do not participate in this thread if you're easily offended or closed minded. The exchange of contradictory ideas is what keeps this thing called the search for knowledge going. This thread is for people who are open minded, logical, and don't deny facts. If you are christian, you can try to post in this thread, but if you are too offended and are just going to insult and blasheme my God and creator Satan, just please go away now.
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Oh boy here we go...I say this with no disrespect, but you don't have the slightest clue what your talking about in relation to LeVayan Satanism. First of all, Anton wrote a book, one that embraced the carnal nature of human beings. To some of us, that book made perfect sense, because it resonated with something that we knew to be true all along, that human beings should not live in abstinence of their own desires and as a matter of fact are at their best when they are allowed to indudge their desires.
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The problem with mindless engaging in one's own desires is that these desires end up resulting in bad consequences. Lack of self-control causes harm, and to just give in is a problem. Yes, it sounds nice, but then you face the hangover, the bill, or other consequences you need to clean up, or you leave for someone else to do. Humans are carnal, but this carnality is finite.
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Mindless engaging? If the point of Satanism is to achieve self awareness and personal excellence then nothing you do is mindless...There is a difference between induldgence and compulsion. What you're describing is compulsive behavior.
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Self-improvement doesn't come in, in indulging every impulse and desire one has. Self-improvement comes through denial of some things, delaying gratification, and then working towards something larger. It means making base desires subservient to things greater. And the excellence needs to be recognized by others, not in a way that is people pleasing, and mere image, but has character.
I will say that you have touched on something here though. It can be hard to tell when engaging in indulgences isn't a compulsion. Strong desires compel people to do things. Now, to end up intellectually managing it, and engaging in the proper time, can violate this. But, I was operating under the presumption that LaVey Satanism was opposed to Christian principles, so thus it would speak of engaging in indulgences now, and whenever, rather than practicing restraint, and aspiring for greater, beyond one's self. If it doesn't do this, then I fail to see the actual difference, unless LeVay's Satanism is actually opposed to a faux image of real Christianity.
